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		<title>By: Bob Landstrom</title>
		<link>http://vaughanmerlyn.com/2008/06/16/the-creeping-insanity-of-security-questions/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Landstrom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Vaughan.

A few weeks ago, I was also changing information with my bank, and was put through a number of these verification questions.  I was asked about street addresses at which I&#039;ve lived in the past, names of distant relatives, and a number of other things.  I have to say, the test was rather difficult to pass.  Luckily I made it through, but I felt challenged enough that I commented to the customer care agent that the test was very tough.

Interestingly, just last week I received a call from my ex-wife, on a similar matter.  She has recently been assigned the glamorous role of managing customer fraud at a major transportation company.  When testing out a prospective verification service, she was subjected to a similar verification process on herself ( sort of the &quot;eat your own dogfood&quot; test ).  She called to ask if I can remember having a PO box in a city in which we lived for a total of six months, nearly 20 years ago.  Neither of us ever had ( or could recall ) having a PO box in that town, and since there was a box with one of our names on it and mail was put into that box it now shows up as a prior address in her history.  

&#039;just an example of how well-intentioned processes can backfire against the rightful owner of the data.

I know my pets&#039; names, the color of my first car, but I&#039;m lucky if I can remember what I had for lunch yesterday.  I hope they go easy on me in the future.

Bob Landstrom
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Vaughan.</p>
<p>A few weeks ago, I was also changing information with my bank, and was put through a number of these verification questions.  I was asked about street addresses at which I&#8217;ve lived in the past, names of distant relatives, and a number of other things.  I have to say, the test was rather difficult to pass.  Luckily I made it through, but I felt challenged enough that I commented to the customer care agent that the test was very tough.</p>
<p>Interestingly, just last week I received a call from my ex-wife, on a similar matter.  She has recently been assigned the glamorous role of managing customer fraud at a major transportation company.  When testing out a prospective verification service, she was subjected to a similar verification process on herself ( sort of the &#8220;eat your own dogfood&#8221; test ).  She called to ask if I can remember having a PO box in a city in which we lived for a total of six months, nearly 20 years ago.  Neither of us ever had ( or could recall ) having a PO box in that town, and since there was a box with one of our names on it and mail was put into that box it now shows up as a prior address in her history.  </p>
<p>&#8216;just an example of how well-intentioned processes can backfire against the rightful owner of the data.</p>
<p>I know my pets&#8217; names, the color of my first car, but I&#8217;m lucky if I can remember what I had for lunch yesterday.  I hope they go easy on me in the future.</p>
<p>Bob Landstrom<br />
<a href="http://itconsultant.boblandstrom.com" rel="nofollow">http://itconsultant.boblandstrom.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brittain</title>
		<link>http://vaughanmerlyn.com/2008/06/16/the-creeping-insanity-of-security-questions/#comment-291</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I couple thoughts on the thread, which raises nothing but reasonable concerns.

With security questions I always use the same answer no matter what lame question I choose.&#160; The asking system doesn&#039;t know the difference anyway.&#160; In effect, these personal questions become an &quot;Alternative password, please?&quot; question.
As for SteveE&#039;s points, what I&#039;ve done is create a series of cascading passwords and supporting personal accounts&#160;(think of onion peeling).&#160; 

At the center is the one account I use to access my &lt;strong&gt;actual money &lt;/strong&gt;(aka my bank accounts).&#160; This account has a single e-mail, a very cryptic password and username.&#160; 
Beyond that I&#039;ve a separate username, e-mail, and password; this is used for other important accounts - credit cards,&#160;investments, online trading, etc.
Then there&#039;s another username, e-mail, and password for even less important things.&#160; This pattern continues until I&#039;ve a throwaway hotmail account and username with a ridiculously easy to remember password that I use for things like&#160;trying out&#160;new sights, downloading whitepapers, etc.




I&#039;m not sure if either is&#160;very secure, but it makes me think it is...

&#160;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couple thoughts on the thread, which raises nothing but reasonable concerns.</p>
<p>With security questions I always use the same answer no matter what lame question I choose.&nbsp; The asking system doesn&#8217;t know the difference anyway.&nbsp; In effect, these personal questions become an &#8220;Alternative password, please?&#8221; question.<br />
As for SteveE&#8217;s points, what I&#8217;ve done is create a series of cascading passwords and supporting personal accounts&nbsp;(think of onion peeling).&nbsp; </p>
<p>At the center is the one account I use to access my <strong>actual money </strong>(aka my bank accounts).&nbsp; This account has a single e-mail, a very cryptic password and username.&nbsp;<br />
Beyond that I&#8217;ve a separate username, e-mail, and password; this is used for other important accounts &#8211; credit cards,&nbsp;investments, online trading, etc.<br />
Then there&#8217;s another username, e-mail, and password for even less important things.&nbsp; This pattern continues until I&#8217;ve a throwaway hotmail account and username with a ridiculously easy to remember password that I use for things like&nbsp;trying out&nbsp;new sights, downloading whitepapers, etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if either is&nbsp;very secure, but it makes me think it is&#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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This conversation continues at <a href="http://www.ngenera.com/convs/show/7447" rel="nofollow">nGenera Community</a><br />
&nbsp;<br />
Brittain<br />
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