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		<title>By: Deming&#8217;s 14 Points Revisited: Part 10 &#171; IT Organization Circa 2017</title>
		<link>http://vaughanmerlyn.com/2009/06/08/bustin-silos-with-the-role-bomb/#comment-1015</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deming&#8217;s 14 Points Revisited: Part 10 &#171; IT Organization Circa 2017]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] posted before on organizational silos (see Bustin&#8217; Silos with the Role Bomb!), the inefficiencies they introduce and how silos tend to dampen the magic of innovation and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] posted before on organizational silos (see Bustin&#8217; Silos with the Role Bomb!), the inefficiencies they introduce and how silos tend to dampen the magic of innovation and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: itorganization2017</title>
		<link>http://vaughanmerlyn.com/2009/06/08/bustin-silos-with-the-role-bomb/#comment-760</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well stated, Russ!  I find that some organizations just don&#039;t have the language to convey the meaning of role properly - in fact, they use the term role to mean a fixed job with a defined slot on an organization chart!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well stated, Russ!  I find that some organizations just don&#8217;t have the language to convey the meaning of role properly &#8211; in fact, they use the term role to mean a fixed job with a defined slot on an organization chart!</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Aebig</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ Aebig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vaughan,

I greatly appreciate this post.  Having the concept of &quot;role&quot; burned deep into my psyche early in my consulting career I relate very well to the concept.  Moving my clients to the concept is more of a challenge.  In the lower maturity organizations, the fluidity of &quot;role&quot; does not seem to exist.  What I have seen more of are cultures which everyone has their place and everyone does things their own way (differently).   It is horribly inefficient, but culturally the norm.

I have hope for change as the social networks take hold in the lower maturity organizations.  Point to point - not hierarchical - behaviors may become much more common, and with this a transition to a real recognition of roles and both the structure and freedom than the concept provides.

Russ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vaughan,</p>
<p>I greatly appreciate this post.  Having the concept of &#8220;role&#8221; burned deep into my psyche early in my consulting career I relate very well to the concept.  Moving my clients to the concept is more of a challenge.  In the lower maturity organizations, the fluidity of &#8220;role&#8221; does not seem to exist.  What I have seen more of are cultures which everyone has their place and everyone does things their own way (differently).   It is horribly inefficient, but culturally the norm.</p>
<p>I have hope for change as the social networks take hold in the lower maturity organizations.  Point to point &#8211; not hierarchical &#8211; behaviors may become much more common, and with this a transition to a real recognition of roles and both the structure and freedom than the concept provides.</p>
<p>Russ</p>
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		<title>By: The Hidden Secret Challenge of Healthcare IT &#171; IT Organization Circa 2017</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Hidden Secret Challenge of Healthcare IT &#171; IT Organization Circa 2017]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: itorganization2017</title>
		<link>http://vaughanmerlyn.com/2009/06/08/bustin-silos-with-the-role-bomb/#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[itorganization2017]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You make a good point.  Not all job types are created equal, and the ways that &quot;roles&quot; (and other organizational constructs) are applied to achieve agility and efficiency will differ depending upon the the nature of work processes, complexity, and so on.

Years ago, Prof. Henry Minztberg described work design as an exercise in standardization - in some cases, standardize the process (e.g, bake a cookie), in other cases, standardize the deliverables (e.g., designing a bridge), and in other cases, standardize the training (e.g, brain surgeon).  In each case, as complexity increases, the ability to separate &quot;role&quot; from &quot;job&quot; decreases.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a good point.  Not all job types are created equal, and the ways that &#8220;roles&#8221; (and other organizational constructs) are applied to achieve agility and efficiency will differ depending upon the the nature of work processes, complexity, and so on.</p>
<p>Years ago, Prof. Henry Minztberg described work design as an exercise in standardization &#8211; in some cases, standardize the process (e.g, bake a cookie), in other cases, standardize the deliverables (e.g., designing a bridge), and in other cases, standardize the training (e.g, brain surgeon).  In each case, as complexity increases, the ability to separate &#8220;role&#8221; from &#8220;job&#8221; decreases.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot Ross</title>
		<link>http://vaughanmerlyn.com/2009/06/08/bustin-silos-with-the-role-bomb/#comment-743</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elliot Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;elasticity&#039; is a good term for that - 

However - in many cases can we not look at a role as a superset of responsibilities that may or may not include regular tasks?

A good example is GM&#039;s IT with its full matrix of what we call &#039;job&#039; tasks, (eg X Axis) and then roles (Y Axis)

Because in some situations I can imagine that *all* a persons tasks are &#039;context specific&#039; and driven by various roles- but also in some cases (as in your original post) where they are external to the various &#039;task&#039; that may make up that job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;elasticity&#8217; is a good term for that &#8211; </p>
<p>However &#8211; in many cases can we not look at a role as a superset of responsibilities that may or may not include regular tasks?</p>
<p>A good example is GM&#8217;s IT with its full matrix of what we call &#8216;job&#8217; tasks, (eg X Axis) and then roles (Y Axis)</p>
<p>Because in some situations I can imagine that *all* a persons tasks are &#8216;context specific&#8217; and driven by various roles- but also in some cases (as in your original post) where they are external to the various &#8216;task&#8217; that may make up that job.</p>
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		<title>By: itorganization2017</title>
		<link>http://vaughanmerlyn.com/2009/06/08/bustin-silos-with-the-role-bomb/#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[itorganization2017]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent point, Pradeep - the continuous improvement perspective really depends upon the flexibility that the &quot;role&quot; construct offers compared with the traditional &quot;job&quot; construct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point, Pradeep &#8211; the continuous improvement perspective really depends upon the flexibility that the &#8220;role&#8221; construct offers compared with the traditional &#8220;job&#8221; construct.</p>
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		<title>By: Pradeep Bhanot</title>
		<link>http://vaughanmerlyn.com/2009/06/08/bustin-silos-with-the-role-bomb/#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pradeep Bhanot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vaughn. Your blog underscores how organisations have changed over the last decade. With increasing automation of processes, employee’s roles are becoming more context specific. In the past, people were hired into a fairly stable function. Today the processes in which you participate define what your job is. The result is more flexibility for individuals and boundaries between functional silos becoming increasingly blurred. An organization with this elasticity is a good candidate for gaining the benefits of continuous process refinement that lean IT has to offer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vaughn. Your blog underscores how organisations have changed over the last decade. With increasing automation of processes, employee’s roles are becoming more context specific. In the past, people were hired into a fairly stable function. Today the processes in which you participate define what your job is. The result is more flexibility for individuals and boundaries between functional silos becoming increasingly blurred. An organization with this elasticity is a good candidate for gaining the benefits of continuous process refinement that lean IT has to offer.</p>
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		<title>By: itorganization2017</title>
		<link>http://vaughanmerlyn.com/2009/06/08/bustin-silos-with-the-role-bomb/#comment-739</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[itorganization2017]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, Elliot, some organizations have institutionalized the term &quot;role&quot; when they mean &quot;job.&quot;  This makes introducing the role concept especially challenging!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, Elliot, some organizations have institutionalized the term &#8220;role&#8221; when they mean &#8220;job.&#8221;  This makes introducing the role concept especially challenging!</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot Ross</title>
		<link>http://vaughanmerlyn.com/2009/06/08/bustin-silos-with-the-role-bomb/#comment-738</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elliot Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vaughan, Perfectly said!

All business process frameworks (at least that I am familiar with!) are keyed into that concept of a&#039;role&#039; (eg sub-process owner)

And attempting to discuss the difference between funtional responsibilities (eg Job) and roles often causes;

a) finger pointing
b) hackles to rise

Because too often individuals feel that &#039;role&#039; must equate totheir status, number of reports etc.

Thank You!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vaughan, Perfectly said!</p>
<p>All business process frameworks (at least that I am familiar with!) are keyed into that concept of a&#8217;role&#8217; (eg sub-process owner)</p>
<p>And attempting to discuss the difference between funtional responsibilities (eg Job) and roles often causes;</p>
<p>a) finger pointing<br />
b) hackles to rise</p>
<p>Because too often individuals feel that &#8216;role&#8217; must equate totheir status, number of reports etc.</p>
<p>Thank You!</p>
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